Re: [ksd-vn] Re: Spamming in VN

At 00:24 26.04.2002 -0400, Tran Dinh Hoanh wrote:
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>sent to ksd-vn by "Tran Dinh Hoanh" <hoanhtr@erols.com>
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>Dear anh Stefan,
>
>Thank you for allowing me to make my point. I agree that this is not a
>proper forum for detail discussion on freedom of expression and its result,
>the infomration flow necessary for commerce to develop.

OK, I took out the VNIT and KSD lists. This one now goes only to the
WG-Spam. BTW: Did you subscribe already? ;)
http://www.isoc-vn.org/cgi-bin/mojo/mojo.cgi and then select the "WG-Spam".

Do you know the two RFCs (i.e. kind of Internet Standard) about Spam?
I am in loose contact with the author/co-author Ted Gavin, and am sure that
he would gladly help us, if we need his advice.

One of the RFCs is titled somehow like "how to make responsible
advertising". I had to look it up again. One WG outcome could be, that we
translate one or both of the RFCs into Vietnamese (I had to check
copyrights), and - since they are a bit long - compile a short summary as
an introduction.

>So we will stop here. I just want to clarify one point you seem to
>misunderstand me.

Reading what you write later: Yes, it seems that I misunderstood you and
jumped the gun. I am a bit sensitive in those points. My apologies.

> I am not advocating freedom of expression of the US
>style. Indeed I always say that American things do not necessarily work
>well with Vietnam. I only say that we need to consider freedom of
>expression when we plan to restrain information (and anti-spamming is a
>restrain on information), because it directly affects the flow of
>infomration necessary for commerce.
>
>The freedom concept should be considered in the context of Vietnam. It
>should be the Vietnamese style of freedom, for the flow of information for
>Vietnam. (But we should not say that Vietnamese don't care about freedom or
>don't need freedom. That is wrong).

If you say it like that, I and probably most people here would agree
absolutely with you. :)

>I hope I have clarified my point by now. Thank you again for your good
>work, brother. You work hard.

Unfortunately. I've got that virus in my blood and can't get rid of it. ;)
My wife would only prefer if it would make some money instead of fooling
around with all that other stuff <g>.

> And we work hard too, watching out for
>everything and sending ideas constantly over these forums. Let's make sure
>that our works support each other.

Sure. Innovative ideas, offered in a gentle, humble, understanding way,
this is what is needed - and usually the best received - and thus the most
successful.
Water is stronger than stone in the long run.
If the US would use more water and throw less stones, they would be much
more successful ;)

>Have a great day, anh Stefan!

You too, or probably more adequate: Have a good sleep ;)

Stefan