Re: [OSS] Re: To Do: Localization of PHP [MySQL, PostgreSQL, etc]

Ya, i've looked at that page and sorting already. It still looks like a lot
more linguistic than coding work.

At 23:03 2003.03.03, you wrote:
>Andi, (although I am not pclouds),
>
>sorting is a very common function in mySQL. I would select something from
>a table and sort it, before displaying the result on a webpage.
>(SELECT * FROM table SORT BY field)
>A very simple example: a list with names, e.g. a payroll. Right now, mySQL
>cannot sort by name in that example, because it cannot handle the
>Vietnamese characters correctly.
>
>Of course, you can get around with a LOT of extra coding, i.e. do all your
>sorting in own SLOW routines, instead of using the built-in functionality,
>but this means, that things are getting more slow, need more resources,
>and localizations are not that easy anymore. Try to enter Vietnamese user
>names in phpNuke and then sort them ....
>
>It is really something different than translating error messages. If you
>look at this URL http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Localisation.html you will
>see, that it is something different from translating some strings (like
>error messages).
>
>Stefan
>
>
>
>At 13:45 03.03.2003 +0000, you wrote:
>-------------------------
>>ba'c pclouds,
>>
>>Do you think there is actually much point in localizing anything other
>>than error and other systems messages in PHP & MySQL? Otherwise, wouldn't
>>localization just be done via string cross-references in a MySQL,
>>PostGreSQL or other database (for PHP as well)?
>>
>>Good examples of as much would include these localizations of PHPNuke or
>>PostNuke, no?:
>>http://vnlinux.org/ ([New?] VietLUG)
>>http://www.hn-ams.org/ (HaNoi-Amsterdam Org)
>>http://vietlug.sourceforge.net/ (Old[?] VietLug)
>>
>>Isn't all that's necessary explained at these URLs?:
>>http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Localisation.html
>>(MySQL Manual | 4.6 MySQL Localisation and International Usage)
>>http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/php/2002/11/28/php_i18n.html
>>(ONLamp.com: Internationalization and Localization with PHP [Nov. 28, 2002])
>>
>>best,
>>Andi
>>
>>At 18:40 2003.03.01, you wrote:
>>>Dear Stefan,
>>>
>>>Could you create a web page containing these tasks (php/mysql localization
>>>and others) so that people can take a task when they have time?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 06:31:44AM +0000, Stefan Probst wrote:
>>> > Dear All,
>>> >
>>> > PHP, the FLOSS server-side language which is often used for dynamic
>>> > webpages, needs also localization.
>>> >
>>> > Actually, it seems, that it bases its country-specific functions a lot on
>>> > the OS.
>>> >
>>> > See e.g.
>>> > http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.setlocale.php
>>> > http://www.php.net/manual/tw/ref.mbstring.php
>>> >
>>> > Does anybody, e.g. in a LUG, have any experience and could write a HOWTO
>>> > for Vietnamese?
>>> >
>>> > Have a nice Sunday,
>>> > Stefan
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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